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As I occasionally mention, I'm learning Turkish on Duolingo, partly for interest (second non-Indo-European language! agglutination! vowel & consonant harmony!) and partly because it's turned out to be rather more useful in my day-to-day life than I anticipated when I started (for reasons various).

One of the things I find really very soothing about Turkish is that it's a language that doesn't have grammatical gender, and doesn't have gendered pronouns. Unfortunately, Duolingo hasn't quite caught up with current usage, which means that translations of the third-person singular pronoun "o" get marked wrong unless you use "he" or "she" (rather than "they"); obviously I stubbornly default to translating as "she".

I am also, As We Know, really very fond of Ann Leckie's Imperial Radch trilogy, which "she" as the universal gender-irrelevant third-person singular.

Taken together, this means I'm occasionally catching myself defaulting to gender-irrelevant/gender-unknown usage of "she" in English, and possibly drifting slightly more towards third-person singular "they" as indicating a specific gender space.

I am, as you might well imagine, rather facepalmy over the Entire Situation.

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Date: 2019-10-29 05:31 pm (UTC)
alexseanchai: Katsuki Yuuri wearing a blue jacket and his glasses and holding a poodle, in front of the asexual pride flag with a rainbow heart inset. (Default)
From: [personal profile] alexseanchai
"neutral" gender emoji

…I am afraid to ask

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Date: 2019-10-30 03:23 am (UTC)
vass: Small turtle with green leaf in its mouth (Default)
From: [personal profile] vass
In iOS. https://twitter.com/emojipedia/status/1188877466615631878

Not everyone dislikes this. I do, because I see it as further narrowing the range of gender expression available to women, men, and everyone else. Now your precise length of hair determines if you're a man, a woman or a "neutral".

Also, EMOJI USED TO BE GENDER NEUTRAL UNTIL SOMEONE FUCKING DECIDED THE NEUTRAL OPTION WAS MALE AND ADDED A DISTAFF OPTION. *deep calming breaths*

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Date: 2019-10-30 03:33 am (UTC)
alexseanchai: Katsuki Yuuri wearing a blue jacket and his glasses and holding a poodle, in front of the asexual pride flag with a rainbow heart inset. (Default)
From: [personal profile] alexseanchai
laptop emoji keyboard is not currently functioning (idkwtf; the hotkey combo isn't bringing it up but both keys still work for other things), and I do not have the right words, so here, have a selfie:

a nonbinary individual whose red hair hangs past their armpits, and whose expression is disgusted with a side of unimpressed.

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Date: 2019-10-31 08:15 am (UTC)
vass: Small turtle with green leaf in its mouth (Default)
From: [personal profile] vass
*waves at you*

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Date: 2019-10-30 06:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fyreharper
Oh look, the small child is right about hair length determining gender!
(Where is my longhair emoji representation though)

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Date: 2019-10-30 03:30 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] niqaeli
My glance through them from when they crossed my twitter feed gave me the impression that they all are very much drawn as androgynous/ambiguous. Which is... fine, as far as it goes? But, ASYK-Alex-Bob, ambiguous-could-be-either type androgyny is not a particularly accessible aesthetic for a great many non-binary people, and is not necessarily actually gender-neutral.

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Date: 2019-10-30 03:34 am (UTC)
alexseanchai: Katsuki Yuuri wearing a blue jacket and his glasses and holding a poodle, in front of the asexual pride flag with a rainbow heart inset. (Default)
From: [personal profile] alexseanchai
yup.

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