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The last few times we've gone to board game socials I've played unfamiliar-to-me games with strangers without my standard preemptive spiel and it's been... fine? It's been fine. I haven't cried! I mostly haven't panicked! I've managed to say "I'd rather read the rules than have them explained verbally" calmly and factually and like it's no big deal!

I'm arriving here from a position of: my family, Mama and Papa and my mother and I, every time I visited the mouldering ancestral pile we'd have dinner, and clean up after dinner, and then every evening or almost we'd move through to the sitting room, and play Scrabble (and very occasionally bridge), the four of us with our own bits of novel or newspaper or whatever to read while waiting for others to take their turns, and we'd congratulate people for nice plays and demand definitions of unfamiliar words and generally exist in companionable quiet while engaging with ritual (while the sun set over the sea out of the window or the gales howled around the edges of the house or or or).

This is a very different approach, a very different style of play, to these socials, but I think I am beginning to understand some more of what people actually get out of this.

See, Adam ended up explaining LARP -- or, well, bits of LARP -- to my mother, on Sunday, over dinner, about systems and mechanics and stories and how these layer and interact.

I begin -- I say, wrapping up before I've really expressed the thought coherently, because apparently I'm very tired again -- to see how this fits together with board games, too: how there's sets of common underlying rules or mechanics, the categorisation of games as Werewolf variants or what have you, with story on top; how at least some of the interest in playing a wide variety of different things, instead of focussing on getting very good at one in particular, is to do with contrast and comparison and variety in flavour and seeing how things fit together and combine and so on, and what can be done with the available blocks, more than it is necessarily anything to do with any specific individual game. The story, perhaps, rather than the elements. The what-happens-if-we-take-a-world-and-emphasise-this.

It's a work in progress (I'm a work in progress), but I might be starting to get a feel for how to enjoy any of this, as opposed to Determinedly Acquiring A Skill. Perhaps.

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Date: 2019-09-20 03:53 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rugessnome
...lately the two times I've actually played board/card games with acquaintances and friends, it ended up being ~deception games, and in some ways that was anxiety inducing and not ...hugely enjoyable.

nnn I wonder if other sorts would be better.

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Date: 2019-09-20 08:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sfred
<3

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Date: 2019-09-20 02:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kareila
My family plays a large variety of games thanks to one of our local libraries having a large collection of them to lend out, and we take turns trying different things. W prefers strategic/knowledge games and often avoids playing the games C picks out, which are usually chosen based on theme or story. I prefer games that de-emphasize the competitive aspect, in favor of games that are either cooperative or have a significant component of luck, because I don't like it when one person always wins (even if I'm that one person). R grew up playing strategic games like Scrabble and Pente so I won't play him at those because he's so much better at them, whereas it turns out that I usually have the advantage on other games like Trivial Pursuit, thanks to my otherwise useless pop culture knowledge.

So if one person doesn't like a particular game, that's okay! They can choose the next one. Most games don't hit the sweet spot for all four of us. The main thing for me is that we have fun doing something together that doesn't involve staring at a screen, and maybe learn or share something. And yes, the variety on top of sameness is good, in much the same way as one likes particular flavors of fiction or food - a thing that is familiar, but interestingly different from what you've encountered before.

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Date: 2019-09-23 03:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kareila
I would love it if we had a full time board game café; that would make it easier to get larger gaming groups together. (The only space I had in my house to set up a small game table was upstairs, and stairs are a challenge for most of the Usual Suspects.) The library with the board games has a game night in their café once a month on a Friday, but that's proven to be an inopportune time more often than not.

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Date: 2019-09-21 04:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silveradept
I never did learn bridge properly. Cribbage and pinochle are the games of choice, along with euchre if we're killing time and need something that moves quickly.

But yes! Board games definitely have certain stock types and then have story or mechanics laid over them to create instances of games. It sometimes helps a lot to have played the core game they're all basing themselves on so that you can figure out the changes to those rules that make this one different. (I much like the versions of Catan with role cards, so that you can still make progress even when everyone else is freezing you out on trades.

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Date: 2019-09-23 03:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silveradept
Oh, I see. Yes, that makes sense, in the same way that when we play bidding card games in the family, if you have enough meld to bid 75, you bid 65 because the distribution is always against you and you'll squeak by. Or it'll turn out you bid 70 when you had, between yourselves, 90 meld and a long suit.

So, I suspect that if I learned how to bid bridge, I'd often end up bidding one below where I should be.

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Date: 2019-09-21 03:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pipisafoat
holy hell that makes so much sense. I think that's how my siblings&spouses approach many games.

my game experience: personally i find that i am not capable of being Good at any one thing, so i like a variety of enjoyable things at which to be Decent instead.

re ritual, that's an interesting one for me, because. I grew up playing Scrabble and Pinochle and Hand&Foot and maybe a couple others, but never with an air of ritual around them. My growing-up rituals center around food instead. (and religion.) I would like to create gaming rituals, but it's not something that's going to happen in this lifetime, at least not without some serious rewiring first. (will post more on this later.)

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Date: 2019-09-22 09:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pipisafoat
(I'm sorry for extended absence and thank you for taking me back and I cannot promise it won't happen again but dw is now officially on my mental health treatment plan lolol so maybe that means I'll be better.)

(unaskedfor ritual ramble)
Every Sunday for lunch we had Caesar salad, the kind where you make the dressing at the table in front of everyone even if it was only family there. That always struck me as one of our odder things. Essentially showing off for nobody. Any time we had caesar salad any other day, we used storebought dressing.
when you add it in with "day of rest" it seems extra odd. to do extra work on the day of rest.

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