identity politics

[kaberett]

Good: I HAVE AN IRISH PASSPORT, with no further wrangling about paperwork and evidence and my godmother's work landline!
Bad: it's in my full name, not my use name.
?????: they... misspelled my middle name.

I think this means I get to have the fight with them about leaving out my saint and family names essentially for free, buuuuut I'm going to need to check the paperwork on that.

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[ewt]

Oh dear.

[sporky_rat]

I'm trying to figure out just how much space is on that page or how small the type is for Irish passports. Saint *and* family names can be...quite a bit.

[kaberett]

It's actually permissible - if you hold only an Irish passport - for it to display only your use name, leaving out your saint and family names! This is very useful for e.g. getting people to CALL YOU BY THE RIGHT NAME when they NEED YOUR ATTENTION because you are TRAVELLING (or had to provide proof of ID to access healthcare, or whatever), and coincidentally is also useful for my brand of Unhelpful Tran, wherein I've kept my saint and family names (because I don't actually dislike them, I just dislike how other people gender them) and stuck a third name in in the middle (partly because Irish naming traditions but mostly because the rhythm's nicest that way).

Which means everyone WILL insist on calling me by my saint name, which is very tedious.

HOWEVER, the Irish are in principle unwilling to issue a passport in a name that doesn't match the name in any foreign passports. THIS IS RELEVANT BECAUSE the passport they've issued me... doesn't match... the name... in my foreign passport.....

... so I get to write back and say "look, appreciate it massively, but (a) you've typoed my family name and (b) what do I have to do to get you to leave my saint and family names off, I will perfectly happily cancel my UK passport if that's what's required, they just won't let me have only my yard name displayed without renouncing my saint and family &c, which I'm unwilling to do because TRADITION."

[kaberett]

(nb this is an inaccurate use of yard name)

[vass]

Good: I HAVE AN IRISH PASSPORT

YAY!

Bad: it's in my full name, not my use name.
?????: they... misspelled my middle name.

...modified yay.

[sfred]

Gah.

[rmc28]

Yay passport though? :-)

[kaberett]

I mean it's not a VALID passport, but in principle, yes :-p

[watersword]

This is the moment that "lolsob" was invented for.

[azurelunatic]

Yes.

[alexseanchai]

yup

[watersword]

May I request a definition of "yard name"? Google is not helping.

[hilarita]

Squerble. Hopefully this isn't hard to fix.

[untonuggan]

Yay Irish passport, boo name issues

[booksarelife]

Why isn’t it valid?

[booksarelife]

I’m going to be the embarrassing person and ask why you’re getting an Irish passport because I unfortunately cant remember, sorry.

That’s annoying that they messed up and that you have to do more name/people wrangling

[booksarelife]

I also love the title of this entry

[kaberett]

Right, so, this is a term I picked up from my brother, who spent a year during his degree in Jamaica, working on the farm that was hosting him and also discovering a new species of frog. (And not quite ending up coaching the Jamaican national rugby team, but doing a whole bunch of science outreach/education about the general harmlessness of local reptiles and amphibians.)

So there is Your Name, which is your wallet name and the thing you get called in church and such, and then there is your yard name, which is what you get called when you're out in the yard working. So it's somewhere, in my understanding, between "usename" and "nickname": the name for everyday, not for births and deaths and marriages.

[kaberett]

'coz it's in the wrong name! If details are wrong it's not valid, even if I could get away with travelling on it.

[kaberett]

Because the other passport I hold is a UK passport, and the UK is - at some point - probably - going to leave the EU, and actually I quite like my EU citizenship, thanks. So given that I'm also an Irish citizen, I'm... getting myself set up with the relevant paperwork.

(I've also been donating to the Abortion Support Network every month since I submitted the paperwork to get my birth formally registered, and am learning Irish, as sort of bare-minimum Contributions Of Citizenship.)

[kaberett]

So (1) the wallet the passport came in had a big notice on it being all "CHECK FOR ERRORS, IF THERE ARE ANY THIS PASSPORT ISN'T VALID, GET IN TOUCH TO SORT IT OUT" with... no information on how to get in touch... and (2) as far as I can tell my options are "the phone" or "the webchat", but the embassy's near work and I'm going in next week for some meetings anyway, so... shrug??? emoji?????

[kaberett]

they had literally about six other pieces of paper with the correct spelling on

INCLUDING MY IRISH BIRTH CERTIFICATE

[sfred]

Good luck!

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[kaberett]

(I am not set up to receive un/subscribe notifications for my own sanity! And also I know this is A Problem with the DW user interface. <3)

[sfred]

Good good! <3 <3 <3