kaberett: a dalek stands at the foot of a flight of stairs, thinking "fuck." (dalek)
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At the beginning of July, I (very resentfully) joined a local gym.

Back in 2016, the UCH hypermobility clinic provided me with a series of group exercise sessions based around gym work and Pilates. Hydrotherapy was on offer, but as I didn't want to do it (because of how long it takes my hair to dry) and they didn't want me to do it (because I have not-asthma) I had no experience with that.

Turns out, contra every single previous physiotherapist I'd ever seen, that there are ways to make strengthening exercises helpful to me, as opposed to actively visibly harmful, and it involves dialling stuff way down past the point they gave of "... we can't really get any gentler", and also, it's nice that the exercises you're prescribing sort out 90% of people in six weeks but as it happens I'm a longer-term project than that.

(If I sound bitter, it's because none of these people, lovely though they were, actually picked up on the hypermobility, and none of them had any idea how to help me, despite their being trained professionals.)

It turns out that the single most important exercise for me to do is balance work. If I stand on one leg for 45 seconds, three times per side per day (or every other), then even if I'm not actually engaging my arches and even if my hips aren't in any kind of alignment and nor is the rest of me and even if I've decided the entire damn' thing is so boring that I'm not going to advance to "doing it with my eyes shut" because it's better to do it with my eyes open (because I'm reading) than to not do it at all -- I get stronger.

And once I've been doing that for a couple of months, starting with orthotics and progressing to bare feet, the tiny muscles taking up my collagen's literal slack and stabilising my knee joint have improved enough that I can add leg stretches to the regime. Sit on a hard surface, legs extended in front of me, rotate my legs to as close as neutral as I can reasonably get, hook a long belt around the ball of my foot and pull it toward myself, feeling the stretch up both sides of my calf (and usually the hamstring as well). Thirty seconds, ideally in batches of three sets of five reps per leg. In practice, of course, the likelihood of me managing three separate physio sessions a day for the same exercise is approximately negative, so instead when I'm actually keeping up with this one I do one set of five reps per day, increasing by one rep a week (if and only if my knee isn't grumbling; if it is, decrease to every other day and be even more gentle about the wretched stretches, and so on), until I'm at ten reps per leg per day.

Once that's stable -- once I've strengthened my small muscles enough that it's safe to start ratcheting down the tension on my large muscles without all of my joints collapsing out from under me -- I can start thinking about going to the gym.

This is where pacing's dirty little secret comes in. You know, the one that absolutely nobody for at least five years was willing to admit to me: "okay," I say, "but I can't, actually, walk for ten minutes every day, because some days I can't get out of bed, so how do I handle that in this model?" "Just do what you can definitely manage," they replied, "every day."

That "every day" is, my dear readers, A Lie. (It's probably worth noting at this stage that while I do have chronic fatigue, it's secondary to endometriosis and to hypermobility-type Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome and to chronic depression and to constant sensory overload -- I do not have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome/ME, for which it's been pretty conclusively shown that Graded Exercise Therapy + CBT is a terrible fucking idea. If you want references, prompt me and I'll dig them out.)

Here's what starting out at the gym looks like for me:
  • I cannot go more than once a week.
  • I cannot use the treadmills or the ellipticals because of the dodgy knee; I must avoid cardio + weight-bearing on it.
  • My cardio consists of at most 90 seconds on a stationary bike (upright or recumbent, depending on which my knee complains about least), with the resistance set to at most 2.
  • I am allowed to do one set of five reps at the lowest possible weight on each of the following guided machines (no free weights for you, Alex!): leg press; seated machine fly; seated rear delt fly seated leg curl; seated calf raise; hip adduction; hip abduction.
  • On gym days, I am to do no other physiotherapy work.

Every single rep is to be done as smoothly and slowly as possible, paying constant close attention to limb and joint position -- guess how much harder "proprioception fucked because of autism and hEDS" makes this. For lower-body exercises, I'm to take e.g. my knees to the limits of their range of motion on the leg press without locking the joint out: the idea is that it's precisely at the extremes of my RoM that I'm most likely to do myself damage, so there's no point just strengthening muscles in the "normal" range of motion; I also have to work on muscle strength out to my extremes, such that my joint is always going to be properly supported, and I'll stand a much better chance of recovering from stumbles and trips without falls or injury. (UCH advises against reaching for edges of RoM for upper-body exercises, on the grounds that it's much easier to pop your shoulder out if you're not being incredibly careful.)

If it feels insultingly easy, I'm allowed to increase at most one of sets, reps, or weights, by the smallest possible increment, at most once per week. If it's merely straightforward, I have to hold steady.

As I say, I resentfully rejoined the gym at the beginning of July. I'm now at three back-to-back (rather than circuit-style) sets of six reps each at around 11kg on all of those machines; I'm up to three minutes at a resistance of 3 on the stationary bike at both the beginning and the end of the session. My knee grumbled briefly for an hour or so yesterday after the session, and now is fine again, so next week I get to up to seven reps per set. I'm aiming for three sets of ten reps each, at which point I'll start -- very slowly -- increasing weight. And maybe, if I really feel like pushing the boat out, bump up to two sessions a week.

It is both incredibly frustrating and producing meaningful, measurable progress, though I have to remind myself of that latter point a lot. So I'm going to keep doing it, crossly, and I'm going to keep working on remembering that it works, and that the frustration's actually a good sign because it means I'm not doing cumulative damage to myself.

The key points for me were:
  • you gotta start out with the balance work and, eventually, the stretches
  • for me, "once every week" is a vastly more achievable starting point than "every day", because I very rarely have entire weeks that I'm completely laid up
  • no, really, start infuriatingly slowly: if "sit up slightly more for thirty seconds once a week" is your starting point, it's your starting point

But in much the same way that most parts of the NHS will strongly discourage you from using any kind of mobility aid, turns out most parts of the NHS (and even private physios), being fundamentally people who are well enough to hold down jobs, are incredibly reluctant to say that rather than try to wheedle you into an outright counterproductive amount of exercise from the get-go.

In practice, my current (theoretical) exercise regime looks like:
  • hand physio (~1 hour, theoretically three times a day, hahahahahaha)
  • foot physio (10 minutes with a wooden rolling pin)
  • leg stretches (see above)
  • balance work (see above)
  • quad strengthening (leg raises with body weight only, starting out with no hold and gradually increasing the length of time I hold at the top, x5 per leg, in a row)
  • forward leans (seated, slow, paying attention to each joint of my spine, x5)
  • backward leans (slump against seat with mid-height back, place hands behind head, lean backward feeling stretch across top of shoulders, x5)
  • twists (cross arms in front of self and twist upper body, keeping chin in line with sternum, x5 left + x5 right)
  • resistance work (hip abduction with resistance band, x5)
  • walking backward (3x ten steps, eyes closed)

Do I do all that every day? Do I hell. Additionally, I'm theoretically working up to one Pilates session a week, to go with the gym-based work.

But: provided I'm doing the balance work and the stretches, it all helps. I'm not going to stop splinting my fingers (or my wrists, overnight, as necessary) -- they're rather less well-supplied with muscles. If I had routine access to knee and elbow braces, I'd only be starting to use them at the point at which I could feel the small stabilising muscles giving up for the day. The increased strength leads to (somewhat) decreased fatigue. I've learned a bunch about physiology, and finally have an answer to my longstanding question of "okay, but if hypermobile folk need their muscles to work three times harder to provide the same amount of joint stability, why SHOULDN'T we just splint or brace, given chronic fatigue?" -- that being, approximately, "it's fine for the range of motion the brace permits but means that your stabilising muscles are going to get even weaker at the extremes of your range, due to disuse, increasing the risk of injury any time you're not braced, even if it does otherwise provide support equivalent to what your ligaments should be doing".

It's progress. Towards the grave, inevitably, but nevertheless: progress.

If you'd like me to expand on or clarify any of this, please do say.

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Date: 2018-08-21 12:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] flippac
This all figures. Even my own experience says "fuck every day so, so much".

I'm glad it's going places for you.

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Date: 2018-08-21 12:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redbird
I'm in a very different place than you in terms of exercise (because we have both different symptoms, and different underlying causes for those symptoms*), but I am impressed with your persistence in figuring out what works for you. Also, the trainer and physical therapists I have worked with all agreed that taking one day a week off, and doing most of my exercises at most every other day, is sensible.

*I suspect that one place physiotherapists (and less-trained advisers) can go wrong is not realizing that (for example) balance problems that go with EDS and sensory overload are different from balance problems that come from multiple sclerosis, and may need different approaches.

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Date: 2018-08-21 02:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] naath
My MS related balance issues appear to boil down to "I can't feel my toes" and I have had to learn visual cues to replace toe ones. Which sounds utterly different. Most physios I have talked to specialise in healthy people with running injuries, these are not the physios sick people need.

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Date: 2018-08-21 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] ewt
I maintain that most physiotherapists rattle off "ideal" amounts of activity fully expecting that most people won't do the exercises three times a day or even once a day, but are kindof hoping that if they tell us "do this 3x/day" we might manage 2 or 3 sets in a week, which is approximately appropriate for people with injuries but no underlying connective tissue issues etc.

The increasing strength at the ends of the range of movement thing is one I need to focus on more, I suspect. My current starting place is different than yours but that gym programme would be close enough to be pretty helpful for me.

I am at a point where I am measuring walking in terms of thousands of steps per day, but I still really struggle if I don't do standing on one foot exercises.

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Date: 2018-08-21 01:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hydrangea
This is a really really interesting post and I will have to come back to it when I'm not fresh from therapy (I have absolutely not thinking energy left). It seems that your hEDS phys therapists are recommending quite different exercises than mine are and I really want to look into your exercises a bit more.

The pain clinic that I visited and the phys therapists I met there put me on exercises based on the JEMS idea, which has really gentle exercises.

I would love to get the references about CFS/ME exercise if possible too, since my mum is diagnosed with this and she had been fighting with her doctors about what sort of exercises she can manage.

Sorry if this comes out a bit messy - as I said I barely have any mental energy left and since English is my second language, all kinds of things are going wonky in my head.

Thank you for writing this post!

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Date: 2018-08-21 01:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] brainwane
Thank you for writing this.

If I understand correctly, the balance work in your regimen is standing on one leg, and it's been working well for you. I would love to know how you chose that as your balance work.

(Back when my spouse and I got a Nintendo Wii, I remember that some of the Wii Fit activities/games concentrated a lot on balance, it was disorienting to see how so much of the time, even though I thought I was standing straight up, the balance board noticed that I was leaning to one side. I haven't done any balance work since then, and your post is reminding me how valuable it is; thank you.)

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Date: 2018-08-21 02:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] davidgillon
Extremely interesting, particularly the bracing/extreme RoM stuff, though I suspect "to prevent injury at extreme RoM when unbraced" needs to be weighed against the amount of injuries bracing is preventing in some sort of "Do the least harm" calculus.

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Date: 2018-08-21 02:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redsixwing
Very interesting. I'm glad you're making progress!

To heck with every day, indeed. Do what gets /positive/ results.

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Date: 2018-08-21 02:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] alexseanchai
I've learned a bunch about physiology, and finally have an answer to my longstanding question of "okay, but if hypermobile folk need their muscles to work three times harder to provide the same amount of joint stability, why SHOULDN'T we just splint or brace, given chronic fatigue?" -- that being, approximately, "it's fine for the range of motion the brace permits but means that your stabilising muscles are going to get even weaker at the extremes of your range, due to disuse, increasing the risk of injury any time you're not braced, even if it does otherwise provide support equivalent to what your ligaments should be doing".

...huh

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Date: 2018-08-21 03:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] oracne
I am so impressed with all the work you've put in, I cannot even express it adequately. It is awesome that you have gotten so far. Working within limits is so hard (and I don't have nearly the limits you do), but you're doing it anyway, and deserve many kudos.

I like having explanations for why things work or don't work, and I find your answer to why bracing is not always good to be very satisfying.

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Date: 2018-08-21 03:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] vass
That is very impressive progress. Both the physical progress and the investigative work and psychological resistance in the face of persistent misinformation and discouragement from doing (or finding out) what works for you.

and it involves dialling stuff way down past the point they gave of "... we can't really get any gentler"

This is me with meditation, and it's why I get angry even seeing an ad for Headspace (ten MINUTES! Anything less than TEN MINUTES does not count as meditating at all to them!)

(no free weights for you, Alex!)

I think I see the logic there, but I'm seeing potential disadvantages too in your particular context, and some definite advantages to (very very light) dumbbells. Would you like to pursue this line of discussion further? (Asking first rather than crash through the wall and evangelise on free weights in your post about what works for you; am fine if the answer is "no, I'm good.")

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Date: 2018-08-21 03:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sebenikela
This is super helpful! Thanks for writing it up.

I've been trying to convince myself to get back into some kind of stretching/physio stuff because I used to do 30 mins or so of easy yoga in the mornings and it was pretty helpful as quiet brain time and for general body functional maintenance. But since my shoulder got all wonky there are positions that hurt in an obviously NOPE WRONG ABORT way so now I'm wondering if there's other stuff I shouldn't be doing but don't notice because it doesn't HURT and then the whole thing becomes complicated and worrysome and that negates most of the brain benefits of doing yoga in the first place and so I just...don't do anything. Which is sub-optimal. "Stand on one leg for a bit, stretch, use foam roller on back" might be a more doable way to get SOME helpful body-things done.

Also slightly related, I've been biking with clip-in pedals and shoes and I've been surprised how much difference it makes to have something keeping my feet and therefore knees pointed straight. Apparently on flat pedals I was doing some kind of weird twist-angle-something because now that I CAN'T do that, my knees hurt less.

ACK BODIES why do they require so much maintenance?

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Date: 2018-08-21 04:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wohali
Congratulations on you making the progress that is meaningful to you at your own, proper pace!

I've been recently diagnosed with Meniere's disease, so I understand how hard balance stuff is, much more than I did when I was going through ankle rehab not long ago.

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Date: 2018-08-21 04:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fyreharper
:chews on this:

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Date: 2018-08-21 07:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] niqaeli
I probably have a lengthier response but my brain is fucking fried, so: oh god, this on the thing where basically every professional ever refuses to fucking . Is every day great for any kind of exercise? Yeah, even if it's really minimal. You'll obviously see results faster, if it's possible. BUT IT'S ACTUALLY ENTIRELY AND PERFECTLY FINE IF YOU CAN'T. It's seriously, seriously fine. Doing ANY of it at all, ever, is what is actually most important!

I mean, for fuck's sake, the thing that drives me up the wall is that whole attitude of NO YOU MUST EVERY DAY is... also why so many people perfectly able-bodied people burn out on new exercise regimes, even ones they enjoy! It's an absurd ask, straight-off. Like, I didn't start my current aerial regime of 4-5 days a week! I was in pretty good health and was reasonably strong and flexible as a baseline and I really rather LIKED a lot of aspects of aerial, and: I started at ONE day a week when I was seeing if this was something I wanted to do. And then I went up to 2, once I'd decided it was something I really liked and I was a little stronger and familiar and acclimated. And then, eventually, six MONTHS after I first started taking classes, I went up to 4-5 days a week. I still don't go every day! Because rest and varied activity are also a thing!

Anyway, yeah, I'm sorry my whole field and field-adjacent are fucking terrible, but I am very glad you've found exercises that are genuinely helpful to you in spite of them.

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Date: 2018-08-22 12:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silveradept
We are glad that you found something that works for you and is making measurable progress, even if it is frustratingly slow.

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Date: 2018-08-22 11:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sylvaine
I honestly hate how many healthy people work in medical professions, ugh.

It's interesting to me because that's similar to where I arrived in terms of my gym practice, too: certainly not more often than once a week (not like anything more is achievable timewise anyway!), only use things that have proper support (I'm not even touching the free weights). I do more cardio, but my EDS afaik isn't as bad as yours.

It sucks that so many people refused to help you the way you needed, but I'm glad you got that help now.

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Date: 2018-08-23 02:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nancylebov
I'm very glad you found something that works for you, and also glad to see someone pushing back against the (Anglo-American? Protestant?) belief that the will dominating the body is virtuous.

May I link to this post on dreamwidth?

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Date: 2018-08-23 09:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] caramarie
This is interesting to me, as someone who also has hEDS (and a fraught relationship with physiotherapy ...), but also, I am glad that I am not the only person who finds doing their exercises so boring that they have to read at the same time!

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Date: 2018-08-23 09:31 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rachelmanija
Thanks for writing this up, it's very interesting. I have a completely different set of physical issues but also have the "No, really, I can exercise like this but not like that" issue. Luckily for me, this comes into play more with regular exercise than with PT, so I can mostly avoid the "Do it this way" people by avoiding classes.

I don't understand why so many medical and mental health professionals are so resistant to the idea that you have to start with what people can actually do, not with what you imagine they ideally should be doing.

Doctors particularly will consistently refuse to give me answers to questions about what I should do if I can't do 100% of the exact program they're demanding I do. The result is generally that I do none of it, when if they'd been willing to scale it down I might have stuck with a scaled-down version.

"Start at your actual starting point, not someone else's ideal" and "make sure each week's goal is actually achievable" are also core principles for treatment of a lot of psychological issues, but are very frequently totally ignored by therapists, who then blame the client when nothing changes.

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Date: 2018-08-23 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] indywind
Interesting and valuable observations, thank you for making words and leaving them where other people could have thoughts about them :-)

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Date: 2018-08-26 09:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
Oh, yes.

As per usual, you meditating on bodies in motion is educational, stimulating, and fruit for helpful discussion.

Thank you so much.

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