Indeed. I think the Home Office having some problems with it is a prime example of exactly why we should keep it! It's been in force for 11 years now. Hope this is just a political point scoring thing pre the Conservative party conference, rather than a real attempt to repeal it.
I cannot wrap my head around the fact that a government minister is complaining about not being able to deport people who are "perhaps suspects". I just. I can't.
I'm still confused how being against human rights is a mainstream political tactic. Standing up and saying "we don't want any human rights, they're all a shabby foreign trick" seems like it ought to be a fast ticket to riducle and ejection from polite society, but instead, seems to be winning political rhetoric.
Because someone else's "human rights" stop you (the voter) from doing what you want. Someone has a right to cross the road? They are stopping you from driving on it! They have a right to a seat on a bus because they are disabled? They are stopping you from sitting down! They need medical care paid by taxes? They are stealing your money!
It's exactly the same thing which means that lowering taxes is a winning tactic, they are appealing to the individual greed and selfishness. Of course, there is also an element of obscuration which needs to be applied ("you're all right, Jack, you won't need a disability allowance because you're healthy"), but most people have never really recovered from the teenage belief that "it will never happen to me" (the exceptions are mainly those to whom 'it' did actually happen, plus a few who learned that 'it' also happened to those about whom they cared).
And note that they aren't actually saying that they don't want /any/ human rights. Afrer all, they want the rights for themselves, they just don't want other people (the "little people", the proles, the "great unwashed", whatever they call us this week) to have rights. And of course they don't want any rights dictated by 'furriners', how dare they? Bunch of surrender monkeys and a bunch we defeated twice, how dare they tell us, the Great British People, how to behave? That plays straight to the xenophobia which is still alive in Britain. No, instead of this 'furrin' Human Rights nonsense we'll have our own Bill of Rights which will be different (and by definition better because after all we're British chaps, right?).
(Note, in case it's not clear: I understand how a lot of these people think -- I don't have to agree with it to have experienced it. Personally I think May should be fired, preferably out of a large cannon...)
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Date: 2011-10-02 11:04 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-10-02 12:32 pm (UTC)WHAT
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Date: 2011-10-02 12:35 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2011-10-04 08:10 pm (UTC)It's exactly the same thing which means that lowering taxes is a winning tactic, they are appealing to the individual greed and selfishness. Of course, there is also an element of obscuration which needs to be applied ("you're all right, Jack, you won't need a disability allowance because you're healthy"), but most people have never really recovered from the teenage belief that "it will never happen to me" (the exceptions are mainly those to whom 'it' did actually happen, plus a few who learned that 'it' also happened to those about whom they cared).
And note that they aren't actually saying that they don't want /any/ human rights. Afrer all, they want the rights for themselves, they just don't want other people (the "little people", the proles, the "great unwashed", whatever they call us this week) to have rights. And of course they don't want any rights dictated by 'furriners', how dare they? Bunch of surrender monkeys and a bunch we defeated twice, how dare they tell us, the Great British People, how to behave? That plays straight to the xenophobia which is still alive in Britain. No, instead of this 'furrin' Human Rights nonsense we'll have our own Bill of Rights which will be different (and by definition better because after all we're British chaps, right?).
(Note, in case it's not clear: I understand how a lot of these people think -- I don't have to agree with it to have experienced it. Personally I think May should be fired, preferably out of a large cannon...)