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This morning I finished reading Tales From Out There: The Barkley Marathons, The World's Toughest Trail Race, by Frozen Ed Furtaw. This recounts the history of, well, the Barkley Marathons, from its inception up to prep for the 2010 race, from the perspective of the first person to complete the course, in the third year it was held. (Whereupon Gary Cantrell/lazarus lake made it harder, as he subsequently has every time someone actually manages to demonstrate that the current instantiation isn't actually impossible.) Last year's race got a fair bit of news coverage, especially in the UK, because Jasmin Paris was the first woman to complete all five loops of the post-1995ish course. There was also coverage here on Dreamwidth, courtesy of [personal profile] rydra_wong, who has been attempting to lure people into this particular extreme sports fandom since well before March 2024, but this time round I actually had the brain to engage! ... only to discover that at that point, for some reason, Furtaw's book (which I turned to once I'd watched documentaries etc, was Rather More Expensive Than Usual on the second-hand market), so I resigned myself to Getting It Later.

Which I duly did! And then on Friday last week I finally finished the non-fiction I'd been slogging through and turned, with glee, to Reading More About The Barkley. I am not sure this is a document that I would recommend unless you are either Interested In The Barkley or interested in a very particular style of Nerd Storytelling? But I enjoyed myself a lot.

Next on my list was the new Craft Wars book by Max Gladstone, Wicked Problems. (I think I have not talked about the Craft Sequence much recently, but after bouncing hard off the first chapter of Three Parts Dead on my first attempt, I wound up loving it enough that I worked out a plausible volcano-associated rock for An Important Piece Of Jewelry featured in Full Fathom Five and then scouring Etsy for an appropriately shaped bead.) I had not even (despite having bought it more or less the week it came out, as I recall) managed to get as far as putting it onto my ereader, so that was step one, and while I was at it I merrily transferred several of the other books that have been lurking in my calibre library but hadn't actually made it across to The Device, and then I settled in to read.

... and was confused and somewhat apprehensive to find that it opened thus (not actually spoilers for Wicked Problems):

The room she ushers him into smells of stale cigarettes and air freshener. The decor is ’80s mil-spec Holiday Inn. Dark-green carpet, striped armchairs, a smoked-glass table, a print of two F-15s trailing vapour set high in a gilded frame. The scream of their engines outside has been softened in here to a dark, low-frequency roar.

While it is not set in our world, I think I can safely say without particular spoilers that one of the technically-I-suppose geographical features of the Craft universe is a Rift In Reality. So it was not... totally out of the question? that Gladstone might have chosen to have do this unsettling and alarming dislocation? Like, it's a hell of a first paragraph to find oneself in media res, but it's Extremely Evocative and for all that I was mildly alarmed and thinking, approximately, but I don't WANT a cat I want a CHEESECAKE, I love the Craft Sequence enough to keep going and see what the fuck he was doing with this.

By the end of chapter three I was a bit "... ooooookay this is... not... structured the way I would anticipate him structuring doing this kind of thing" and yet ([personal profile] rydra_wong, [personal profile] vass, I hope you at least started cackling several paragraphs ago) it was not until partway through CHAPTER SEVEN that I FINALLY went "no, seriously, WHAT GIVES" and actually double-checked the title.

... so anyway that's how I realised that I had gone from The Barkley (lured by [personal profile] rydra_wong) into Prophet, also VERY MUCH rydra's fault, courtesy of tapping on a different title to the one I'd intended, because I'd just added a bunch of new books to the ereader and eink still doesn't refresh all that fast.

(My reading plans have been thoroughly derailed. I am now committed. I might shriek in comments as I go along.)

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Date: 2025-02-07 01:35 am (UTC)
lireavue: A red-haired woman in a black dress, playing violin while leaves swirl around her. (Default)
From: [personal profile] lireavue
I'm just gonna raise an eyebrow here and note that This Might Be The Usual Aphasia and hope you don't wake up into proof of that. <3

Also oh fuck you I think I ran out of library access to the Gladstone books after book 2 and then forgot to grab 'em off Kobo or anything and dammit dammit dammit my tbr just grew three sizes today.

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Date: 2025-02-07 04:47 am (UTC)
radiantfracture: Beadwork bunny head (Default)
From: [personal profile] radiantfracture
NGL partway through this story I was like, "so Max Gladstone plagiarized Prophet? Weird."

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Date: 2025-02-07 09:26 am (UTC)
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
My brain went to, "Huh, weird ebook publishing glitch?"

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Date: 2025-02-07 07:23 am (UTC)
rydra_wong: The UK cover of "Prophet" by Blaché and Macdonald, showing the title written vertically in iridescent colours (prophet)
From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
it was not until partway through CHAPTER SEVEN that I FINALLY went "no, seriously, WHAT GIVES" and actually double-checked the title.

OMG. I am so sorry you got a cat instead of a cheesecake, and I hope it does not impair your enjoyment of Prophet that you had your brain set for a completely different book!

P.S. Please do shriek in comments if you feel so inclined, it brings me joy when people do that!
Edited Date: 2025-02-07 11:03 am (UTC)

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Date: 2025-02-07 03:31 pm (UTC)
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
??? Not sure I'm following.

(I mean yes, the aunt in chapter 7 is Sasha from chapter 2 and 5, if that's what the realization was.)
Edited Date: 2025-02-07 03:44 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2025-02-07 05:48 pm (UTC)
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
Fully understand, am familiar with such mental lags. It can take time for the brain to catch up and go "oh yeah, the POV character who has a small nephew is probably the same person as the aunt of the POV character who is a small child."

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Date: 2025-02-07 04:07 pm (UTC)
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
Also now I'm trying to work out what it does to one's initial reading of the opening chapters of Prophet if you're trying to read them as set in the Craft Sequence universe, and it's possibly less than one might think because Adam and Rao also live in a weird fucking universe.

What is going on with their reality is not that a Rift has opened into the Craft world, but it's still pretty weird. And New Weird.

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Date: 2025-02-10 08:40 pm (UTC)
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
... honestly I now hope that some fantasy author does do that partway through their series. Something where -- as with the Craft series -- it'd be wildly jarring but not 100% impossible given the universe as established. Because doing that (and having a reason for doing it, and sticking the landing) would be a hell of an interesting move.

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Date: 2025-02-09 08:20 pm (UTC)
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
\o/\o/\o/

I see you are inhaling at speed! This book will do that; it seems like a lot of us hit a tipping point and then just unhinge our jaws and SWALLOW the rest of the book.

Yay for dangling it at more people! I think there are so many people in fandom who would inhale it likewise.

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Date: 2025-02-08 09:59 pm (UTC)
rydra_wong: The UK cover of "Prophet" by Blaché and Macdonald, showing the title written vertically in iridescent colours (prophet)
From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
I have been INHALING IT (having paused briefly to cackle at the Cambridge college)

\o/\o/\o/

Yes, all the class details and Oxbridge stuff (and how those shape people even if it's in how loudly they will insist it's all AWFUL) are so impeccably observed.

but I have just got to THE EXPLICIT RAO KEEPS ASSUMING INCORRECT GENDERS OF IMPORTANT-TO-ADAM PEOPLE PARALLEL and I had to come and yell about it to an audience immediately

Look, Rao is just very, very bad at re-assessing the things he thinks he knows to be true about people, seeing as it's a thing he's never had to do before in his entire life. *g*
Edited Date: 2025-02-08 10:42 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2025-02-09 09:00 am (UTC)
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
Yes, all the class details and Oxbridge stuff (and how those shape people even if it's in how loudly they will insist it's all AWFUL) are so impeccably observed.

In terms of class background -- I am a Londoner born in exactly the same year as Rao, and basically if he'd been AFAB I think I would probably have gone to school with him. So I have been writhing around in glee at the detailing. I was trying to explain to [personal profile] vass why "those dreadful dinner parties in Chipping Norton" is such a precise signifier it makes me shriek (David Cameron becoming Lord Cameron of Chipping Norton helped illustrate).

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Date: 2025-02-11 09:15 am (UTC)
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
Also man, the way that that level of class/wealth privilege intersects with race, and the particularly equivocal status of people who are South Asian (or East Asian), that's a whole complicated Thing, which I obviously did not have to contend with myself but watched classmates dealing with.

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Date: 2025-02-09 02:02 pm (UTC)
ilyena_sylph: picture of Labyrinth!faerie with 'careful, i bite' as text (Default)
From: [personal profile] ilyena_sylph
+darts in late to Also Shriek+

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Date: 2025-02-09 08:16 pm (UTC)
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
YOU SEE WHY I FEEL THAT REQUIRES SOME SORT OF CONTENT WARNING, AND YET IT'S QUITE HARD TO SPECIFY WHAT.

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Date: 2025-02-09 08:22 pm (UTC)
ilyena_sylph: picture of Labyrinth!faerie with 'careful, i bite' as text (Default)
From: [personal profile] ilyena_sylph
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IT HOOKED YOU for good and sure!!!!!

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Date: 2025-02-10 12:25 pm (UTC)
vass: Small turtle with green leaf in its mouth (Default)
From: [personal profile] vass
ASTERISK WARRANTED

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Date: 2025-02-10 01:50 pm (UTC)
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
Yes!

DOG(?)

DOG[citation needed]

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Date: 2025-02-10 03:30 pm (UTC)
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
AND I KEEP HAVING TO PAUSE TO STARE AT A WALL WHILE EXPERIENCING EMOTIONS

THAT WILL HAPPEN, YES

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Date: 2025-02-10 03:45 pm (UTC)
ilyena_sylph: picture of Labyrinth!faerie with 'careful, i bite' as text (Default)
From: [personal profile] ilyena_sylph
YEP! IT DOES THAT!

IT DOES THAT A LOT!!!

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Date: 2025-02-10 04:30 pm (UTC)
rydra_wong: Lee Miller photo showing two women wearing metal fire masks in England during WWII. (Default)
From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
Possibly (probably) even makes it worse when the Person that should be the smell of is gone.

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Date: 2025-02-10 04:51 pm (UTC)
rydra_wong: The UK cover of "Prophet" by Blaché and Macdonald, showing the title written vertically in iridescent colours (prophet)
From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/

NOW YOU SEE WHY I HAVE BEEN UNGLUED ABOUT THIS BOOK FOR OVER A YEAR

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Date: 2025-02-10 05:47 pm (UTC)
ilyena_sylph: picture of Labyrinth!faerie with 'careful, i bite' as text (Default)
From: [personal profile] ilyena_sylph
+glee glee glee glee glee!!!!!+

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Date: 2025-02-11 02:22 pm (UTC)
vass: Small turtle with green leaf in its mouth (Default)
From: [personal profile] vass
<33333 \o/ \o/ \o/

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Date: 2025-02-12 05:26 pm (UTC)
rydra_wong: The UK cover of "Prophet" by Blaché and Macdonald, showing the title written vertically in iridescent colours (prophet)
From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
P.S. Honestly, I feel like turning up when you were trying to read a completely different book and being like "HI. YOU'RE READING ABOUT US NOW" is an extremely Rao way for the book to introduce itself to you.
Edited Date: 2025-02-12 05:26 pm (UTC)

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