kaberett: a dalek stands at the foot of a flight of stairs, thinking "fuck." (dalek)
[personal profile] kaberett
flu.

in spite of the flu jab.

everything is terrible the internet is sending me hot + sour soup.

I have spent most of today horizontal.

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Date: 2014-12-16 08:11 pm (UTC)
littlebutfierce: (shugo chara omg)
From: [personal profile] littlebutfierce
:( Ugggggh. Tho... I guess... at least that's a simple answer? :/ I hope it goes soon!!

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Date: 2014-12-16 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] sidheag
Good grief. Confirmed by test, not just self-diagnosed? Bad luck. Hope you feel better soon! At least it's likely to be self-limiting; maybe a new unexplained joint problem would have been worse really.

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Date: 2014-12-16 08:57 pm (UTC)
batdina: (orthodykes)
From: [personal profile] batdina
yeah, apparently they missed the boat on the flu jabs this year. take care.

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Date: 2014-12-17 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] sidheag
Not really; there are reports from elsewhere in the world (e.g. the US) of an H3N2 strain that is not in this year's vaccine, but so far in England the H3N2 that is circulating is almost exclusively the vaccine strain. As far as I've heard the H1N1 and B strains are well-matched.

Of course, an internationally-connected university is one of the best places to catch a strain of flu that is common in the US but not yet common in England... but also, most influenza-like-illness, especially at this time of year which is still well before peak flu season, is not caused by influenza. And then, of course the vaccine doesn't help.

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Date: 2014-12-17 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] sidheag
It certainly does sound like flu, and maybe it is! But biology is complicated...I used to subscribe to "flu is different, you'd know", but apparently flu is only statistically worse than the "milder" things it gets confused with; some people with lab-verified influenza have no or mild symptoms, and conversely some people with viruses that cause "colds" can actually be very ill. Obviously immune status matters, but so can things like how many virions you happened to breathe in. Some other causes of ili are: respiratory syncytial virus; human metapneumovirus; parainfluenzas; some adenoviruses; some enteroviruses (all iirr; also some of these like rsv are much commoner in children, but adults can be unlucky). Bottom line, at least according to DH's respiratory consultant, is that you can't expect to know clinically, you only know when there's a positive test (or two).

For geekery follow the weekly reports at...oops, let me post this and then find url, lest this browser lose all I've typed...

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Date: 2014-12-17 08:53 pm (UTC)
batdina: (monster cat)
From: [personal profile] batdina
I am in California so it makes sense I'd be hearing more about the US. Ditto the international university thing.

I find it curious that the strains don't match up worldwide. but that's probably my own lack of knowledge showing.

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Date: 2014-12-17 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] sidheag
It is fascinating! I think the way to think about it is that all new strains eventually get everywhere, but predicting the precise speed and pattern of spread, and hence getting choice of vaccine strains right, is rather like weather forecasting - six months in advance. I'm personally impressed at how often they get it right.

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Date: 2014-12-16 09:05 pm (UTC)
vass: Wet miserable Sam Carter wrapped in blanket, caption "Give my fandom soup" (Soup)
From: [personal profile] vass
Dislike. *sends virtual tea*

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Date: 2014-12-16 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I got measles despite being vaccinated. This is why herd immunity is a thing. Vaccinate your kids and yourselves, people.

(of course, flu vaccine has the bonus way of not working of "you catch a rare flu strain that isn't in this year's vaccine"...)

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Date: 2014-12-16 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] rjw76
Whoops, wasn't logged in.

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Date: 2014-12-16 09:59 pm (UTC)
sfred: Fred wearing a hat in front of a trans flag (Default)
From: [personal profile] sfred
Oh. Poor you! I hope you feel better soon.

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Date: 2014-12-16 10:46 pm (UTC)
birke: (Default)
From: [personal profile] birke
Gross and annoying!

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Date: 2014-12-16 10:48 pm (UTC)
glass_icarus: (avatar: appa bath)
From: [personal profile] glass_icarus
:( :( Hope it passes soon!

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Date: 2014-12-16 10:52 pm (UTC)
jesse_the_k: White bowl of homemade chicken soup, hold the noodles (chicken soup)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k
Damn. Only plus is it's "self-limiting," which is doctor for I can't be arsed to fix it :,(

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Date: 2014-12-17 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] rjw76
That's not a fair comment. Flu is a virus and it *can't* be fixed, only supported while your body fixes itself. Please don't blame the doctors for biology!

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Date: 2014-12-16 11:08 pm (UTC)
hairyears: Spilosoma viginica caterpillar: luxuriant white hair and a 'Dougal' face with antennae. Small, hairy, and venomous (Default)
From: [personal profile] hairyears
The flu vaccine is several vaccines, against whatever strains are forecast to be circulating over winter...

...Which makes your having flu, despite the vaccination, unsurprising: they don't get all the circulating strains, and the flu you've got is probably anything *but* a rare strain.

It is not, however, an uninteresting one: the working definition of a flu pandemic isn't '1918 and the Spanish Flu Catastrophe', it's the more prosaic 'This strain has displaced the usual circulating population, and it is now the predominant flu infection'.

So I might be well-advised to listen up for more reports of ineffective vaccinations: as I now know that I have mild asthma, I am not as casual about the flu as I have been in previous years.

Re: On-the-Jab Learning

Date: 2014-12-17 05:00 am (UTC)
untonuggan: Lily and Chance squished in a cat pile-up on top of a cat tree (buff tabby, black cat with red collar) (Default)
From: [personal profile] untonuggan
I saw an article the other day based on a CDC report basically saying: this year's flu season's gonna be a doozy because we the flu strain has "drifted", but plz for the love of all that is holy get vaccinated anyway because it can lessen the severity of your infection *and* Herd Immunity and there are still multiple strains out there not just this predominant one.

Which certain of my relatives will probably hear as, "Flu vaccines don't work, see I told you all along!" But that is sort of a separate issue.

Ugh. Flu, we hatessss it, preciousss.

Re: On-the-Jab Learning

Date: 2014-12-17 08:03 am (UTC)
azurelunatic: Vivid pink Alaskan wild rose. (Default)
From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
One of the more surreal trolls* in one of my IRC channels said something which took that starting point and then went completely off the rails with it, going something like: "The CDC said that this year's vaccination wasn't entirely covering this year's flu; I wonder if that represents the CDC taking a stab at Big Pharma?"

and it was just like ... what?! How?!?!


* Someone who has known this person for 10+ years has confirmed that this person does in fact have a very sharp grasp on how the world works and is in fact just that big a troll, rather than this coming from a place of fundamentally misunderstanding the science.

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Date: 2014-12-16 11:28 pm (UTC)
emperor: (Default)
From: [personal profile] emperor
Ugh, blech. I had 'flu at Easter, and it was t3h suXXor. Much sympathy, and I hope you GWS! *hug*

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Date: 2014-12-17 12:04 am (UTC)
forestofglory: E. H. Shepard drawing of Christopher Robin reading a book to Pooh (Default)
From: [personal profile] forestofglory
oh no! Sending you virtual tea and soup.

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Date: 2014-12-17 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamfracture.insanejournal.com
Well, at least now you know what it is? But flu sucks. Many, many hugs.

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Date: 2014-12-17 12:57 am (UTC)
raze: dog lifting his lip and text, "this is the closest to a smile you're getting today." (smile motherfucker)
From: [personal profile] raze
Noooo I am so sorry. I am just getting over the flu myself and it is the WORST. I hope you feel better soon and I'm glad you're diagnosed so you at least don't have the discomfort of not knowing.

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Date: 2014-12-17 12:58 am (UTC)
jelazakazone: black squid on a variegated red background (Default)
From: [personal profile] jelazakazone
Ugh, flu is NOT fun, but it's an "easy" answer at least. Hope you feel better soon.

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Date: 2014-12-17 01:50 am (UTC)
alexseanchai: Katsuki Yuuri wearing a blue jacket and his glasses and holding a poodle, in front of the asexual pride flag with a rainbow heart inset. (Default)
From: [personal profile] alexseanchai
yuck. sympathy.

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Date: 2014-12-17 02:52 am (UTC)
pipisafoat: image of virgin mary with baby jesus & text “abstinence doesn’t work" (Default)
From: [personal profile] pipisafoat
Knowledge is power (and pip is drunk) (but not on knowledge power, on alcohol power)

Running to say things elsewhere yes

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Date: 2014-12-17 03:45 am (UTC)
umadoshi: (kittens - Claudia - ear tufts)
From: [personal profile] umadoshi
Ohhhh, that sucks so much. ;_; I hope you recover quickly.

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Date: 2014-12-17 05:06 am (UTC)
untonuggan: 2 ppl at a table with a pot of tea. One says, "Would you like some tea?" The other, "No." Caption: "anarchy in the UK" (tea anarchy in the UK)
From: [personal profile] untonuggan


*sending good thoughts and tea*

Also my only semi-mildly-amusing flu story.

So sometime in, I dunno, middle school? I had flu and it was horrible and then I was in that wobbly not-ready-to-resume-activity-yet-but-bored-out-of-my-fucking-mind period. I somehow convinced my mom that I was totes okay to ride the Metro with her to the Air and Space museum and go to an exhibit, which I don't know how she agreed to because she is a nurse and that shit takes energy. I think she was like, "Oh yay you're feeling better and also I'm sick of being stuck at home too!"

Basically, we walked from the Smithsonian stop to the Air and Space Museum, I got inside, turned "sort of yellow-gray" and kind of collapsed against one of the exhibits in the main foyer. My mom found a guard, and then I got to go on an adventure. In Days of Yore, each of the Smithsonian museums had their own health rooms. I actually went *right* before the Air and Space Museum closed theirs (so there would just be one health room that was central to all the museums or something).

Anyway I was pretty out of it but I got wheeled through the bowels of the Air and Space museum by a nice security guard, and then a nice nurse gave me fluids, took my temperature, made me lay down, and called us a cab to go back home.

Maybe you too can see the inside of a museum too if you plan it right?

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Date: 2014-12-17 08:05 am (UTC)
azurelunatic: Vivid pink Alaskan wild rose. (Default)
From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
Ooof. Flu sucks.

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Date: 2014-12-17 02:57 pm (UTC)
silveradept: A kodama with a trombone. The trombone is playing music, even though it is held in a rest position (Default)
From: [personal profile] silveradept
Ah, nuts. Bad luck, then. Hope you feel better soon.

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Date: 2014-12-17 04:23 pm (UTC)
worlds_of_smoke: A picture of a brilliantly colored waterfall cascading into a river (Oleander: Default)
From: [personal profile] worlds_of_smoke
Oh, man. :( That sucks. I hope you feel better soon!

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Date: 2014-12-17 05:09 pm (UTC)
davidgillon: A pair of crutches, hanging from coat hooks, reflected in a mirror (Default)
From: [personal profile] davidgillon
Ugh, sympathy, in similar wheezy, crackly, achy place right now.

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