Today in Alex's ill-informed opinions

[kaberett]

I have very little patience for a lot of what crosses my radar as Movement Rationalism. This is primarily because an enormous amount of it seems completely invested in, well, behaving as though humans can meaningfully and en masse be rational actors, in ways that ignore enormous amounts of evidence about How People Actually Work, with a whole bunch of ditching pragmatics in favour of ideological purity. (This shows up A Lot in Movement Atheism specifically, the adherents of which seem very keen to denigrate religion and organised religion without any actual understanding or appreciation for the psychological and sociological role played by religion even if you are starting from a point of No Supernatural Anything.)

I also find massively off-putting the idea that seems to be taken as axiomatic that Humans Are A Good Thing and it is Objectively Important to Keep The Species Going.

The problem being, of course, that I am simultaneously interested in understanding where people are coming from (and in particular having had this entire thing framed as Rational makes me go "... but? you seem to be leaving? a lot of important information? out of your modelling? because... you don't like it?") and... deeply impatient with most of the places I come across it, so: I would be interested in your views and indeed your recommendations on the approximate topic.

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[ewt]

Sortof off topic but when people have A Probably Gratuitous Whinge about organised religion and aren't in obvious distress, I do tend to say something like "My religion only looks organised from the outside, and barely that: in reality we're just muddling along like anyone else." Like, yes Christianity has been and in too many cases still is associated with significant imperial/hierarchical/colonial/kyriarchal power, and I do not mean to make light of the grievous damage that has caused. But in the meantime, it is often the case that we can barely keep the buildings watertight and the lights on.

(There is a whole sideline here about why I feel more comfortable in but also frustrated by smol churches that are having to struggle, but that's even further off-topic.)