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kaberett ([personal profile] kaberett) wrote2014-09-16 12:04 am

Politics of pronouns in the Imperial Radch

(Not sure what's going on here? The answer is Ancillary Justice.)

We're told that Radchaai does not bother with gendered pronouns. It seems to me that the default pronoun used means gender-irrelevant (rather than gender-unknown or gender-specific, which seem to me to be a useful way of considering pronouns of gendered beings). We're told that Strigan's society uses gender-known pronouns even though it professes to consider gender irrelevant.

And yet: the Radchaai frequently refer to ships as "it" (I note that the standard English pronoun used to refer to vessels is the same as the way in which the Radchaai default pronoun is rendered). It's clearly not as simple as in/animate - ships have emotions, ships have personality and identity, ships are sentient, ships have ancillaries. Except that this is done in a literally dehumanising way - ships are explicitly not Radchaai, not citizens, and therefore not considered human; characters who are uninterested in or unsympathetic toward ships are far more likely to refer to them as "it", whereas characters who like ships seem to mostly not pronoun them; non-Radchaai humans are generally called the standard pronoun for Radchaai, despite being considered by at least some in the society to have sub-human status - and so I am left picking away at what distinction it is the Radch is making here...

Thoughts very much appreciated!
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[personal profile] sfred 2014-09-16 12:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I just made this comment directly to [personal profile] kaberett but I think it more properly belongs here:

I'm pretty sure it's Breq/JoT-as-narrator who says at one point that there's a sea of things other cultures would consider gender markers (body shapes, clothing, jewellery, makeup, hair arrangements). Among Radchaai these are configured in so many different combinations that the decoding other cultures would do wouldn't work anyway (although obviously in the book, other cultures go on body shape). That makes (even more) sense to me of how much Breq struggles with remembering which cues are supposed to be relevant elsewhere.