Today's dismay: currants

[kaberett]

From the department of "divided by a common language": earlier today I was Very Upset about the US use of "coffee cake", which is apparently not a cake flavoured with coffee but rather a (style of) cake eaten with coffee.

(The recipe blog intro writes itself, really; things I am already considering include some kind of poppyseed coffee cake and of course rhubarb coffee cake, which is what precipitated this particular discovery.)

This was upsetting enough by itself but Subsequent Digressions lead to the discovery that apparently in North America "currants" with no other specifiers by default means Ribes, probably blackcurrant, and not, you know, the dried grape.

... via going "hey, this EYB recipe specifies 'currants' as an ingredient for teacakes, but I've previously been informed that that means Ribes fruit not dried grapes, surely some mistake?" and getting back, approximately, "what makes you think dried grapes are relevant??? the version of the recipe in the Guardian just says 'currants'??????"

(The linking step was being Extremely Indignant about having it patiently explained to me that "coffee cake" is like "tea cake". Apparently BUT THE FRUIT SHOULD BE SOAKED IN TEA THOUGH is not a robust defence.)

Comments

[kaberett]

You are in fact speaking to a culinary history nerd!

......... and in fact Ottolenghi sell meat-containing mince pies and then the long-suffering front-of-house staff do the very patient yes-it-has-MEAT-in-it explanation absolutely on autopilot any time someone audibly considers buying one.....

[pseudomonas]

No offence whatsoever meant to culinary history nerds! But if someone offered me a mince pie without qualifying the offer I would, despite being a strict vegetarian, eat it without asking any questions, given that even beef suet is pretty rare these days.

[ludy]

As a vegetarian who does ask the question, my experience is that bought mince pies and homemade pies made with bought mincemeat are usually (though very much not always) vegetarian as standard - but homemade pies made with homemade mincemeat still have (beef) suet in at least 75% of the time. So presumably we are encountering different baking sub-cultures?

[pseudomonas]

Entirely possibly so.