kaberett: Stylized volcano against a stormy sky, with streams of lava running down its sides. (volcano)
[personal profile] kaberett
... it being the UK release of Guardians of the Galaxy 2.

Exhibit A: Nazi Captain America holding Thor's hammer, with an associated discussion of symbology, senior Marvel staff donations to the 45th US President's campaign, etc

Exhibit B: Marvel asking comic stores to change their logos to Hydra symbols and staff to wear Hydra t-shirts.


Like. Especially maybe don't give them opening-weekend money for this shit, please?

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Date: 2017-04-28 10:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] hollymath
Can I share this?

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Date: 2017-04-28 11:29 am (UTC)
ghoti_mhic_uait: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ghoti_mhic_uait
I'd missed this; thank you for pointing it out.

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Date: 2017-04-28 11:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sebastienne
So I've seen some commentary - I don't know how convincing you'd find it - along the lines of a general Marvel boycott being less productive than a specific boycott of the hateful stuff.

Annoyingly I can't find the post I saw now, but it included things like Agents of Shield being very explicit in repeatedly calling out the Trump administration, while certain comics titles and at least some of the upcoming films are groundbreaking in terms of diversity and representation (eg Thor: Ragnarok, Ms Marvel).
Edited Date: 2017-04-28 11:39 am (UTC)

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Date: 2017-04-28 12:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shanaqui
To me, the problem with boycotting Marvel as a whole at the moment is that they're moving in this direction because they think their readers have a problem with diversity. So boycotting titles like Ms Marvel, Captain Marvel, Thor, Sam Wilson as Cap, Black Panther, Silk, Kate Bishop as Hawkeye... it's just reinforcing those opinions (and potentially allowing them to cancel titles like Ms Marvel, putting writers like G. Willow Wilson out of a job).

(And then there's the fact that Chris Evans, for example, is vocally anti-fascist and using the heck out of his platform to make it very obvious. Though he at least has plenty of other gigs if Captain America somehow failed.)

I am extremely upset about what they've done to Steve Rogers and the Maximoff twins, so much so that I wish I could anti buy Nick Spencer's run on Cap, but... it also seems counterproductive to boycott Ms Marvel et al. Not an easy dilemma to solve.

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Date: 2017-04-28 12:57 pm (UTC)
shanaqui: A little pixel art icon of me: short red hair, green eyes, looking shocked/sad ((Me) ?!)
From: [personal profile] shanaqui
Of course! Just... thinking around why I'm not sure about a complete boycott, even though a large part of me wants to.

And yeah, for sure, Lisa and I aren't going to see GotG2 either, which isn't too much of a hardship, and won't be seeing anything featuring Cap either until this is sorted, which is more of one given my... [Idon'tknowwhattocallit] thing about the MCU's Cap! I'm explicitly thinking about the comics I mentioned here (and others like them, e.g. the Avengers lineup that includes Billy Kaplan, although what they've done with his Romani-Jewish mother, goodness knows if they've left him alone).

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Date: 2017-04-28 11:46 am (UTC)
ghoti_mhic_uait: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ghoti_mhic_uait
Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking.

I bet they were going 'but people wear Darth Vader costumes for Star Wars!' without stopping to think (or listen) why it's not the same.

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Date: 2017-04-28 11:41 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] haggis
This Twitter thread from Alexandra Erin seems to be a reasonable explanation of what they thought they were doing and why they are sticking to it, despite numerous attempts to explain what the problem is.

https://twitter.com/alexandraerin/status/856336057096445952

I strongly agree with your proposed response although since I have used up all my interest in superhero media, I can't really boycott something I wasn't planning to spend money on.

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Date: 2017-04-28 12:04 pm (UTC)
vass: A sepia-toned line-drawing of a man in naval uniform dancing a hornpipe, his crotch prominent (Default)
From: [personal profile] vass
Good plan.

Anyone up for a recs thread of upcoming things to see instead?

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Date: 2017-04-28 01:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] swingandswirl
My interest in Marvel has been shrinking over the years, especially after the Dr. Strange and Iron Fist whitewashing fiascos and their continued shafting of their female characters, but I'd completely forgotten about GotG being one of their properties. That's one ticket I won't be buying, thanks for the reminder.

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Date: 2017-04-28 01:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] alatefeline
Indeed.

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Date: 2017-04-28 01:40 pm (UTC)
davidgillon: A pair of crutches, hanging from coat hooks, reflected in a mirror (Default)
From: [personal profile] davidgillon
*Headdesk*

I mean I've come to the conclusion that the entire MCU marketing model exists solely to derail strong character development, but the degree to which the Nazi-Cap storyline is tone deaf to Marvel's own origin story just beggars belief.

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Date: 2017-04-28 01:45 pm (UTC)
cesy: "Cesy" - An old-fashioned quill and ink (Default)
From: [personal profile] cesy
Drat, I hadn't thought through that connection before buying tickets. Argh. Thank you for pointing it out.

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Date: 2017-04-28 03:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] alexseanchai
*nod firmly*

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Date: 2017-04-28 06:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] silveradept
I'm still wondering how such a thing made it through and whose ears had to be closed to make it work. But yes, no Guardians on opening week - I have other movies to potentially go see.

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Date: 2017-04-28 11:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] starlady
Without disagreeing with your decision, the movies and the comics are now being run separately--they were all formerly run by the same comics people authorizing the Nazi shit (Pearlmutter), but are now separate under Kevin Feige. Boycotting the comics is the most effective way to boycott the Nazi shit.

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Date: 2017-04-30 06:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] conuly
Exhibit B: Marvel asking comic stores to change their logos to Hydra symbols and staff to wear Hydra t-shirts.

*wince*

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